The sustain pedal works in reverse

by David Cantrell
(lula Ga)

When I press down on the sustain pedal, it mutes the sound. It does the opposite that I am used too. How do I reverse this to where you press down in the pedal ---- it will sustain???

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Nov 30, 2016
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Works for me NEW
by: Anonymous

Bless, thank you very much. Worked for me!

Oct 31, 2016
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Hooray! You Rock!
by: Stephanie

I am a new keyboard player and I have a Yamaha digital piano P-105 and the sustain pedal was not working right so I googled how to fix it this article popped up and I did as you instructed turning if off then plugging in the pedal then turning it on and it is working right right now. Blessings to you. :~)

Jun 27, 2016
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These tips worked. Thanks
by: Anonymous

I was having the same problem and found this page on Google. I didn't know to look for a switch on my foot pedal. That worked! Thanks!

May 31, 2016
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Zak is right, rest of you are idiots
by: Anonymous

Zak is right, the rest of you are idiots

May 23, 2016
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hot to restor a pedal polarity
by: Anonymous

Turn off the piano and UNPLUG, wait a few seconds than turn on. (plug before, ofcourse :-) )

May 18, 2016
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The sustain pedal works in reverse
by: Kimberly

Actually, polarity has nothing to do with the sustain pedal operation. It is the state of the switch contacts inside the pedal when the pedal is in the up and resting position -- N/O for Normally Open, and N/C for Normally Closed .

Yamaha is non-conformist as far as standards, and seems to like "normally-closed" in the dampened or pedal-up position, where most of the rest of the world uses "normally-open". Pedals that have a switch on the bottom just select whether the resting position of the pedal switch is open or closed and opposite when the pedal is depressed. One of my keyboards (Alesis) will use any pedal automatically, since it reads the pedal state when the keyboard is powered on and assumes that whichever it is, is the pedal is 'up'(dampened).

Feb 17, 2016
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Sustain pedal
by: Anonymous

Switching off and unplugging, rep lugging and switching back on worked for me

Feb 02, 2016
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re-set
by: Anonymous

try re-setting keyboard ... (from off) hold down power button and very last top note (last high C) at the same time, a couple of lights will flash, it will re-set itself ... worked for me with the sustain pedal operating in an opposite manner (so to speak) ... good luck ...

Nov 25, 2015
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Yamaha Sustain Pedal
by: Cathy

THere's a switch on the pedal. That was a fast solution to why the sustain didn't work in the beginning. Thanks to everyone for clearing up this issue.

Nov 07, 2015
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Sustain Pedal Working in Reverse
by: Phoebe

My husband has a Yamaha Piagerro NP-31 which we loaned to a friend. When we got it back, she said the sustain pedal was messed up and working in reverse. After reading the comments on this website and fiddling with it, I discovered the simple solution that was posted by another commenter. I plugged the sustain pedal in before powering up the keyboard, and PROBLEM SOLVED! By the way, we're using a Roland pedal.

Aug 07, 2015
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Thanks Fixed Hammond Sk1 sustain
by: gtobobb

Using a Yamaha sustain pedal from my DX7 on my Hammond Sk1. It worked normally then all of a sudden worked opposite. Was going to reverse wires, but found your site. I pluged the sustain pedal after I powered it up. messed me up. So I pluged it in while off, turned on Hammond, well-la it works perfect. Plug all pedals in first than power up. thanks a million. Bob B

Mar 04, 2015
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Same problem as Kitty
by: Charmaine baldt

Kitty, I am having the same trouble as you... sometimes the board will sustain when the pedal is not plugged in, and then not sustain when the pedal is plugged in... or vice-versa. it used to just mess up when I would accidentally turn the keys on while pressing the pedal but now the problem is just rediculous.
I have turned off the piano and unplugged the pedal for a bit and am waiting to let the electrical charged in it clear. ...
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waiting...
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taking a pee...
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i am hoping that the "time out" method worked. it was on the fritz at the last band show I had but then worked for a solo gig i did... and I am just superconfused as to why. I feel like the piano got mad at me for starting to use guitar pedals via the sustain input and the 1/4" left channel output and that is why it is rebelling.... but we will see in a few more minutes....
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...*pets kitty*
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...ok.
*plugs pedal back in*
*shakes chicken juju bones*
*turns on CP85*
NOPE.
total bollocks.
mine has a switch, too... and i've done this and flipped the switch to no avail. sooooooo. i think i am just going to buy a damn guitar sustain pedal and screw that sustain output. i can't deal with unreliable functionality when i gig out all the time. sigh. great set of keys, otherwise!

Feb 22, 2015
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sustain
by: Helen

I've had same sustain problem with bmy yamaha pedal and yamaha keyboard but all these comments have been useful in helping me.
Thanks guys

Jan 30, 2015
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change polarity
by: Anonymous

The unplugging pedal, turning the whole lot off, plugging pedal back in and then turning on worked for me. Thank you - thought I was going to have to dismantle the switch and swap over wire a la you tube!

Jan 30, 2015
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change polarity
by: Anonymous

The unplugging pedal, turning the whole lot off, plugging pedal back in and then turning on worked for me. Thank you - thought I was going to have to dismantle the switch and swap over wire a la you tube!

Jan 19, 2015
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Casio Keyboard Vrs Yamaha Sustain Pedal Problems
by: Tasha the Cat

I bought a Yamaha sustain pedal for my human who's current pedal gave out, only to find that WORKS BACKWARDS! It isn't a universal pedal with a flip switch like my humans broken one, but has a reverse polarity to his Casio keyboard. Being a cat, I wasn't aware that you can get + and - keyboards and the pedal must match up...apparently Yamaha and Casio just don't get along (a bit like cats and dogs).
So,if you're buying a sustain pedal make sure that it's compatible (like cats and prawns) or that that it's a universal one that you can change at the flick of a switch (wish I could do that with next doors dog!). That's £35 of good prawn buying money down the drain! So, I've buried the Yamaha in my litter tray and got a(much cheaper but works great) SP2 Universal sustain pedal instead...

...and remember...be careful out there...when your human's using their sustain pedal...keep that tail out of the way!

Dec 08, 2014
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Sustain Pedal Fix
by: TheRoybert

I was the repair for the Yamaha. I have a Roland pedal which is much easier. The switch is a simple button attached to a tiny board. the two leads attach to the board, but there is an unused path on the board that also says "on" and it is at the bottom instead of the top of the button's path.
If this is your type, you simply detach the soldered wire from one point and re-solder it to the unused point.
I had a Yamaha pedal that had the multi tongue connection that remained closed until depressed. Seemed like a whole lot of nonsense for an on off switch.

Oct 08, 2014
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Pedal issues
by: Anonymous

Hi all, i play piano for 20 years and had a new sustain pedal once a year. But in the last 6 months i bought 5 different pedals of several producers, and all brokes after few days!!

I'm guessing that my yahama S90 bought in 2004 (10 years ago) could send electrical thunders to pedals.

I'm spending all my richness for sustain pedals and i would like to stop.. Do you have any guess?
Thanks and sorry for my english.
Giuseppe from Italy

Jul 02, 2014
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Korg Digital Piano / Roland Pedal with Reversed Polarity
by: Anonymous

I have recently borrowed a Korg digital piano with a Roland pedal. The pedal has a switch with options of "Continuous" and "Switch". I tried many variations of the methods described above for plugging/unplugging, but to no avail.

The comment about where to find the setting in the actual keyboard helped me, though, as I am unfamiliar with this piano.

The Korg piano has a "Global" button, which took me to Global Setup. There was a section called "Foot Pedal/Foot Switch Assign". I changed the Sustain Pedal Polarity, and played with the switch on the actual pedal itself, and found a combination that worked: "+" plus "Switch".

Hope this helps someone.

Jun 05, 2014
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DGX 620 sustaining
by: Kitty

Interesting new problem --- with the pedal unplugged, sometimes the keyboard just starts to sustain all the time. Turning on and off does not always fix the problem.

Does the mean the keyboard is on it's last legs? Or is there some sort of major reset I can do? Or does this require a major repair?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Kitty

Sep 04, 2013
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Changing Polarity on Sustain Pedals
by: FKCrawley

I have Korg and Yamaha keyboards and lots of sustain pedals that began to change. I read the comments on this page and they led me back to my KORG manual because the plug out-in method had no effect. I DID GO TO THE GLOBAL Menu. If you've never been there before follow the basics tab and then a drop down will appear. You can change the polarization there to fit whatever pedal you want to use, i.e. + or - and it won't affect your keyboard but your pedal WILL WORK!!!! If you have pedals with no external switch, this is your best and easiest solution. Especially if you are going LIVE!

Apr 18, 2013
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thanks
by: KattSass

unplugged and did what was said, works great. Thanks

Feb 16, 2013
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How to make foot pedals like Yamaha FC3 work correctly
by: Gerry H

SIMPLE! No need to mess with polarity wiring or switches.

Start by UNPLUGGING the pedal
Next Plug the pedal in again BEFORE SWITCHING ON then it will work perfectly
If you plug in WHEN THE KEYBOARD IS ALREADY ON the pedal will work In reverse and sustain all the time.

Dec 16, 2012
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Pedal in Reverse polarity
by: STEVE

I have the Yamaha DGX-530 and the power off, unplug, plug back in, power back on trick did work. It reversed the polarity on my pedal. Thanks.

Mar 14, 2012
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Does your keyboard have a "Function" setting?
by: JimG

If you have a P-155 (or similar), there is a "Function" in the unit itself for changing the footswitch(es) polarity. See the instruction manual in the "Function" section. Do be careful in that Function area: the manual does not give step-by-step as to how to get out of a section after changing it, and either leave Function altogether or go to a different sub-function. Works though. I'd like to see an answer directly from Yamaha on this one.

Dec 29, 2011
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Buy a dual polarity sustain pedal
by: Jay

Different manufacturers make different sustain pedals and some have positive polarity and others have negative. Buy the sustain pedal that is supported for your device or buy a dual polarity sustain pedal so that you can switch the polarity on different devices.

Nov 23, 2011
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Sustain Fix
by: T2

Thank you, Thank you. The replacement pedal I bought had a polarity switch, and with one flip, I'm back in business.

Oct 17, 2011
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Yahama pedal in Casio CDP 200
by: Sangma

Using the sustain pedal of Yahama in Casio CDP200R, will it spoil the keyboard? The sustain pedal of yahama works reverse in Casio, but I'm going to change the polarity. So doing it, will affect in any way to the keyboard?

Jun 14, 2010
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How to change polarity without a switch
by: Yamaha pedals always break

After working with Yamaha pedals for many years and throwing away about 10 of them, I've found that you can simply change the polarity by holding the pedal down while plugging it in to the back of your keyboard. This has worked for me before and corrected the problem.

Feb 05, 2010
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Sustain Pedal working in reverse
by: CionePro

Thank you for your tip on the polarity switch on the pedal.

I can play without sounding like a thousand dreams trying to dream :)

Aug 22, 2009
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sustain pedal in reverse - causing me brain damage
by: Anonymous

thank you thank you thank you - i thought i was going crazy ( perhaps i am but the pedal is fine now 0 again THANK YOU,
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Aug 15, 2009
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How to fix backward sustain pedal
by: Paul

I had the exact same problem with my Casio keyboard and a Yamaha sustain pedal I bought

I'm not an electrical genius, but I was able to get it to work by opening it up and doing a little modification. Of course I first just tried switching the white wire with the black one but that didn't change anything at all when I tried it. It turns out the Casio wants the circuit completed to sustain, and broken for no sustain, which is the opposite of what the Yamaha pedal does.

I opened it up and mine had three three flat metal strips let's call them Top, Middle and Bottom. The Middle and Bottom ones were joined together on the right side, and the Middle and Top ones were touching on the left side when the pedal was not pressed. These seperated when the pedal was pressed, thereby breaking the circuit because the wires were on the top plate and on the joined Middle/Bottom plate.

So to flip it I:
1. Unsoldered the Bottom wire
2. Cut apart the Bottom and Middle plates.
3. Bent the Middle plate to touch the Top plate instead and soldered those together
4. Soldered the Bottom wire back on.

That's it! Once I figured it out, it took only a few minutes to fix.

Good luck!

Aug 04, 2009
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not working
by: Anonymous

We have tried this several times and it is not working for us either. 35 years of playing and yamaha never lets you down with simple tasks undone.

Feb 27, 2009
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The sustain pedal works in reverse - Fix
by: Andy

I also had this problem when I first set up the piano. I discovered that i had the piano powered up when I initially plugged in the cord for the pedals. All I did was turn the piano off, unplugged the pedal cord, waited a few minutes, plugged the pedal cord back in again, then powered up the piano. Problem solved!

Dec 20, 2008
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No good for me.
by: MO8 user

Ok, i tried the power off power on trick. Nothing worked. I tried too look for a switch on the pedal. Still nothing. Is there something i have to do to assisng the pedal to sustain? I just bought this tihing yesterday and still have not been able to figure it out. I have a PC-4 pedal which i beleive is complatible. Any help here would be sweet bceause i have to use it this sunday.

Oct 14, 2008
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This Workeef 4 Me
by: Anonymous

turn off keyboard unplug pedal, then re plug pedal turn on keyboard...Presto should reverse the sustain polarity

Oct 14, 2008
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SUSTAIN PEDAL REV POLARITY
by: zak2008

I use portable Yamaha 413 keyboard has a sustain pedal Input. The manual says, if it's not sustaining when Yamaha pedal is depressed, turn off keyboard Re-Insert Sustain Pedal 1/4" plug THEN turn keyboard on without depressing pedal to resolved reverse sustain pedal issue.

Oct 13, 2008
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DAMP PROBLEM ?
by: Anonymous

YOU SURELY NEED TO FLIP THE SWITCH ON THE PEDDLE. HAPPY DAMPING ..JAZZRAY

Jun 18, 2008
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Your Pedal polarity don't match with your Keyboard.
by: Mario

What you need to do is to change the polarity of your pedal. Maybe there is a swicht on your pedal or on your Keyboard input. Pedals never go wrong the problem is that not each pedal work with every Keyboard-Piano. The solution ? Try to change the polarity, that's a matter of cabling and soldering when there is not a switch on board.

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